The Truth About HB 4271

Introduction to Michigan Medical Marijuana:

Michigan is a trend setting state filled with compassionate people who care about the pain and suffering of sick people. History will also prove that in “1979 Michigan joined 14 other states when a medical marijuana bill was passed allowing glaucoma, and cancer patients with prescriptions from specifically licensed physicians to receive marijuana for their condition” Marijuana Politics

Fast forward to 2008 the people voted with a sure and clear voice 63.7% of the voting population voted in support of Michigan medical marijuana. This was an undeniable statement with an incredible mandate. Yet years after its passage this people’s initiative has yet to be implemented into law. Even the right to assert the defense provided for in the Act is denied in many parts of the state despite Supreme Court Rulings. The simple fact is that innocent people are made to fear the government. Our civil rights are ripped from us and stomped on by the feet of our oppressors, or so it may seem. The people of the State of Michigan are crying foul and we have proof of civil rights violations.

The reasons are obvious upon examination of the data. We have quantified the breaches that have occurred constitutionally and directly to the public. The government should always act upon absolute knowledge when it circumvents the will of the people. That has not happened in this case.

What we are witnessing in the State of Michigan is a lynching of a whole segment of society and the denial of rights for the rest. When a privileged person of great power by the name of Attorney General Bill Schuette can lead the mob of corporate collaborators to harm the sick something has got to give.

Even sick people deserve due process. Just a fair hearing of the facts, yet Oakland County has prosecuted many innocent people despite the law. This abuse of the people continues because it is allowed to continue. The government goes to great lengths to slander, lie and serve up a steaming dish of libel twisted up with a backhand in justice. A law barred from the courtroom is not implemented. Failure to allow the defense in the courtroom is not the full extent. These violations are continued to be served up in court rooms across the State of Michigan. This proving violations of the oath of office and not faithfully discharging the duties of the office Attorney General Schuette has sworn to protect. Faithfully discharging is not a creative term but implies allegiance to the people.

In the beginning:
The voters of the State of Michigan intended patients to be taken care of without having to worry about an interruption in the flow of valuable medicine. They envisioned people taking care of people. They never intended for marijuana dispensaries to take over the law. Let’s envision a caregiver is caring for four patients and his grow room is over taken by mold, or spider mites. What happens to the patients that the caregiver is providing for? When this situation occurs a caregiver could stop down to the Farmers Market and find a caregiver on the inside of the market that could provide medicine to the patients to treat their chronic condition until the damaged caregiver gets their garden back on track. Farming is a very delicate procedure and it can be challenging when an entire grow is devastated.

When the will of the people is expressed in a voter’s initiative it should be honored by the mighty and the weak because that expression is the unfiltered will of those who accept government rule. An initiative is a correction of government errors. For the government and/or the corrupt to tamper with such an instrument is sacrilege as freedom has been paid for by the death and suffering of the true believers of We the People.

The introduction of marijuana testing facilities:
Quality problems were ravaging the market in 2009, by the time 2010 came to play several marijuana testing facilities began breaking into the industry. Becca Hollandsworth of Cannalytics Testing was a pioneer in small communities. Testing was beginning to take off inside the Farmers Market model, and other dispensary models. Like any other industry a community realizes the problems and works together to find solutions.

Shortage problems occur when a caregiver is not able to produce enough medicine to satisfy the patient’s needs. These shortages are a difference between pain free life and death by pain for a cancer patient. Think about it as a matter of supply and demand. It takes 2 pounds of cannabis to make enough cannabis oil to treat one cancer patient, and this only yields 2 ounces of cannabis oil. Cannabis oil dosages can range from between 1 gram, to 3 grams per day depending on the patients chronic condition. This type of demand produces shortages in a grow room. This is why having an option available for caregivers such as a Dispensary, Compassion Club, Farmers Market, or Cooperative models are integral in servicing cannabis to patients.

On the opposite end of the scale is a dispensary owner. This owner opens up a store and brings in cannabis overages from caregivers. This cannabis is called overage. This overage is sold to the dispensary owner, and the dispensary owner sells it back to the community and includes a hefty mark up. The cannabis could have been obtained at a cost of $150 per ounce is dispensed to a patient anywhere from $265 or higher per ounce. In some metropolitan dispensaries $15 to $40 a gram is the range. This is why Joe Cain owner of Jackson Medical Marijuana Farmers Market to Jackson, Michigan. Jackson is nestled between two major interstate highways. The Farmers Market was necessary to push prices down inside the State of Michigan. The Farmers Market Model arrived in 2010 creating more obtainable prices, and allowing caregivers to help the patients in need. This was community collaboration, and a patient could walk in with $5 dollars and walk out with a quarter of an ounce if they negotiated with the right caregiver. The important part is that every patient was helped regardless of the ability to pay or not.

The Michigan Medical Marijuana Act clearly intended patients to work with caregivers, and not dispensaries. The State of Michigan should do as the people had intended. If they would have done this from the beginning we could have probably avoided all of this mess that is facing the State of Michigan patients and caregivers.

In the State of Michigan The Farmers Market Model not only helped caregivers by removing the middle man dispensary owner. This made it possible for the caregiver to work one on one with patients in a public place. It joined them together and it made it possible for really good growers to help more than just the four patients allowed by State of Michigan. These caregivers contribute to the Farmers Market Patient Fund, this patient fund assisted low income patients with obtaining free medicine, free, or nearly free medical marijuana certifications. The Farmers Market hosted a series of social mixers through the Holidays that joined a State wide coalition of cannabis patients. Helping them integrate from constant scrutiny, discrimination, and persecution to a loving network of people who want to help them outside of themselves. When people suffer from chronic illness they tend to become introverted. Socialization is an integral part of health and recovery.

Every Friday the Farmers Market would bustle with patients that were ready for the Friday marijuana special, and a steaming hot bowl of Friendship soup. We played games; listened to music, karaoke with boisterous laughing, and socializing. This was an opportunity to build alliances that could warm the souls of a cold hard reality called chronic life long illness. People with no hope, no family, and no friends played a pivotal role in the success of the Farmers Market Social Friday Mixer. All of the people inside the community are suffering with chronic conditions, and illnesses. These social opportunities bring people together and help build friendships, and give support that will last a life time.

The Medical Marijuana Farmers Market served a large majority of people that only use medical marijuana, have no access to health insurance, and lack the financial means to undergo standard health care treatment. This country has eliminated affordable healthcare coverage. The people being served are typically low income or middle income patients and cannot afford commercial dispensary marijuana prices. These patients sought consultation from a licensed practicing physician that qualified them for the use of medical grade marijuana. It would have been no different than a Doctor writing a prescription for a pain pill. What would happen if a regular patient went to their doctor, received a prescription for pain medicine, and all of a sudden the State of Michigan cited closing all of the pharmacies because of one pharmacy in some random city in Michigan was selling oxycodone to people without a prescription.

The problems:

Problem 1:
When the people’s initiative failed to be implemented into law the Medical Marijuana Community was caught in a sea of red tape confusion caused by overzealous communities being forced to create a set of regulations and standards. These counties and the limited ordinances created huge problems throughout the State of Michigan. These problems could have been prevented if the legislative branch would have implemented the will of the people. The Republican destruction of Michigan Medical Marijuana.

Problem 2:
We are currently faced with a tragic situation concerning the care of the sick in Michigan. All avenues were cut off from us when the Supreme Court ruled on the McQueen decision. This ruling handed down a swift halt and quickly destroyed 250 years of democratic rule. The patients and caregivers are preparing a suit to restore the civil rights of patients and caregivers and restore the rule of law. The harm that has been laid upon the sick is inexcusable. This document will provide a history of the grievances and offered solutions based on our many years of experience in this area. We seek quick resolution and have no tolerance for extending the pain of the sick, Supreme Court McQueen Ruling

The Medical Marijuana Farmers Market served a large majority of people that only use medical marijuana, have no access to health insurance, and lack the financial means to undergo standard health care treatment. This country has eliminated affordable healthcare coverage due to greedy insurance companies, out of control health care costs, and influx of poor health conditions that are straining the general fund of Medicaid, Medicare, and other private health care policies. The people being served are typically low income or middle income patients and these people cannot afford commercial dispensary marijuana prices. These patients sought consultation from a licensed practicing physician that qualified them for the use of medical grade marijuana. It would have been no different than a Doctor writing a prescription for a pain pill. What would happen if a regular patient went to their doctor, received a prescription for pain medicine, and all of a sudden the State of Michigan cited closing all of the pharmacies because of one pharmacy in some random city in Michigan was selling oxycodone to people without a prescription.

The Supreme Court Ruling of McQueen basically stopped the poor people from accessing affordable marijuana medicine. Looking at it from a different point of view let’s pretend that a pharmacy got caught dispensing narcotics without a physician prescription. Let us say that they got caught doing this and this issue went to court system. The Supreme Court ruling basically said that pharmacies are a nuisance and the drugs they dispense are a danger to people’s health. The Supreme Court basically closed all of the dispensaries in “OPT OUT” counties. Now all of the prescriptions that were written by doctors are no longer valid. The patient can no longer go to the pharmacy because the pharmacy is closed. How would that settle with average citizen? They have a script to treat the pain, but they have zero access to the medicine in the script. This is the same type of failure that the patients of Michigan Medical Marijuana Act are up against with the State of Michigan. The State of Michigan has allowed local municipalities to take control over the act. It is up to the people to take corrective action to overturn this injustice.

It has become painfully obvious to everyone that the intent of the voters has been overridden by an extreme element in government intent on nondemocratic rule and force of arms against the sick who have dared to use the law the people passed. Caregivers and patients are being robbed in the street and in their homes by criminals who know that they we are afraid to call the police because we end up getting arrested.

Problem 3:
When a person goes to a special physician with their medical doctors that qualify them for medical marijuana they are issued a card based on these qualifications. The patient pays the doctor, and then pays the registration fee to the State of Michigan to tell the State where the patient is housing their plants. The Registry identification cards are taking months, or often they never arrive at all. Despite the law requiring that the cards be issued within 20 days the State of Michigan instructed police officers to arrest anyone with only paperwork despite the requirement in law that stated that the paperwork would suffice if the cards are not delivered in the allotted time.

(b) If the department fails to issue a valid registry identification card in response to a valid application or renewal submitted pursuant to this act within 20 days of its submission, the registry identification card shall be deemed granted, and a copy of the registry identification application or renewal shall be deemed a valid registry identification card.

The law is clear yet hundreds of patients and caregivers were illegally arrested, had possession seized, imprisoned and injured. This amounts to clear civil rights violations. The government did not have the authority to arrest people who were enrolled in the program when it was the government’s fault that the cards were not issued in a timely manner.

THE MICHIGAN STATE POLICE MEMO:

Michigan State Police Memo dated April 4th 2009 and it clearly indicated the government’s intent to circumvent the law. It also instructed all police to arrest patients without the registry card despite the law which states;
(b) If the department fails to issue a valid registry identification card in response to a valid application or renewal submitted pursuant to this act within 20 days of its submission, the registry identification card shall be deemed granted, and a copy of the registry identification application or renewal shall be deemed a valid registry identification card.

The law is explicitly clear yet hundreds of patients and caregivers have been illegally arrested, had their possessions seized, and, or were imprisoned, and injured. This amounts to clear civil rights violations. The government did not have the authority to arrest people who were enrolled in the program when it was the government’s fault that the cards were not issued in a timely manner.

Problem 4:
The Law was specific and so were the voices of the voters. Michigan law protects a parent from being denied custody or visitation of a child solely for their legal medical marijuana-related activities. Specifically, the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act states in Section 4 (c) that: “A person shall not be denied custody or visitation of a minor for acting in the accordance with this act, unless the person’s behavior is such that it creates an unreasonable danger to the minor that can be clearly articulated and substantiated.”

Child protected services taking away children from licensed practicing medical marijuana patients and Senator Rick Jones a Republican on Senate Judiciary Committee said that a parent using cannabis to treat their pain is not qualified to be a parent. This is the mentality that we are facing inside the State of Michigan. When a parent is using cannabis verses a heavy barbiturate, or opiate they are much more functional. Yet, the State is forcing people from using cannabis back into these poisonous narcotics. This is a violation of our freedom of choice. “A person shall not be denied custody or visitation of a minor for acting in accordance with this act, unless the person’s behavior is such that it creates an unreasonable danger to the minor that can be clearly articulated and substantiated. [MCL 333.26424(c); emphasis added.] 4”

The protest of 2010:

The largest attended rally for marijuana inside the State of Michigan, HighTimes Magazine published this picture in the January edition of 2011.

While thousands of Medical Marijuana Activists protested in front of the capitol building in Lansing, Michigan, a glorified group of lobbyist calling themselves National Patients Right’s Association ,Michigan Association of Compassion Centers MACC, Michigan Norml, and Michigan Medical Marijuana Association, the MMMA decision was not authorized by the MMMA board. This was a total back door deal, with lots of documented emails to prove collaboration. They used the back door to cut a series of deals that would forge forward the recreational marijuana industry inside of the State of Michigan. Details were hashed out over the progression of repressive legislation, dispensary legislation, and controlling advocacy by disrupting legitimate opposition from the medical marijuana community. Key leaders were removed and a massive public relations campaign launched inside the State of Michigan. These lobbyists had full intentions of divvying up the proceeds from the sale of a people’s act of 2008.

Dan Riffle and his team of lobbyists are determined to undermine Medical Marijuana in the State of Michigan, Dan Riffles Cannabis Activist Network. In a memo Dan Riffle discusses the lobbying efforts of his Washington DC Firm have to capitalize on the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act by trading civil rights like a bargaining chip. This email that was written in February of 2012 sells out patients to the highest bidder. In the State of Michigan on September 19, 2010 the real marijuana activists stood on the front steps of the capitol building while inside behind closed doors lobbyists wheeling and dealing our civil rights away. Trying to stop the negative legislation that Riffle was trying lobbying to enact. Clearly the trading block was Michigan civil rights for commercial interests to bring home the bacon. Joe Cain former CEO of Michigan Medical Marijuana Association reported that he had personal knowledge of the lobbying efforts because he had been to a meeting with Dykema Gossett in 2012 and the emphasis was on the elimination of the caregiver system and the implementation of the Colorado Dispensary model. Joe Cain stated that the Dykema Gossett Lawyer was one of the chief supporters of this shift in rights. It was indicated that they had been distributing generous amounts of cash in Lansing, Michigan to accomplish this task.

Shortly after these meetings, a memo was issued to leaders from various advocacy groups and these groups began to actively undermine any opposition to the slew of ten bills that were proposed to remove caregiver and patient rights. These destroyers were determined to unravel the activist heartbeat that was thriving inside the State of Michigan. Everything from deleting protest event pages, slandering opposition leaders, lying about the magnitude of the proposed changes, additional backroom meetings, and harmful lies that incriminate Caregivers by publicly testifying that caregivers are harming patients, that the only people capable of taking care of patients were dispensaries. The devious tactics that these people deployed in order to destroy medical marijuana inside the State of Michigan was almost a comedy to watch if it had not been so heartbreaking. To actually tell innocent people that your organization would fix any problems caused by adverse legislation is perverse at best.

In newspaper articles across the State the patients and caregivers see “Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette said he believes the state’s medical marijuana law has been hijacked by people who want to legalize the drug. Schuette said he believes voters were misled by drafters of the law about its true purpose, and that’s one reason why he does not support an expansive interpretation of the act” The people of Michigan are at a cross roads. Sadly the leaders of the medical marijuana movement are the same leaders that are in back rooms collaborating with our law makers.

House of Representatives Republican Mike Calton is behind the corporate take-over of marijuana and is pulling the political strings inside the State of Michigan in order to accomplish this task. This Republican Representative is the sponsor of this infamous dispensary bill ;that Attorney General Bill Schuette warned the public about.

This bill not only has numerous problems in it but it was written from its inception based on corruption and graft inside the State of Michigan. Representative Calton embarked on a traveling horse and pony show across the state selling access to the highest bidder. Cannabis Counsel Attorney Matt Abel, and his team of Michigan Norml Directors made it a mission to force feed HB 4271 into the lives of all patients and caregivers. They tout that without safe access of a dispensary, patients would have absolutely no access to safe medicine.

On May 23, Vivian Curl form Citizens for Human Rights, and a Journalist for CannaTV, accompanied by Joe Cain CEO of National Marijuana Coalition, and two activists Hairy and Smiley stormed a secret House of Representatives Hearing. This hearing was not publically announced, unless you were specifically invited to attend. We were not invited to attend and we were very surprised to find that this marijuana distribution hearing that affected all patients and caregivers inside the State of Michigan was not publically announced.

The following YouTube Videos portray dispensary owner, after dispensary owner making public testimony about the harms being caused by Caregivers. It was heartbreaking from the view point of a Caregiver. These dispensary owners are going across the State telling people they must support HB 4271, even though it is a clear violation of civil rights. They say they have no intention on eliminating caregivers. However, listening to the testimony given on this day we realized that this was a complete take over: File this in the noticeably corrupt section.

Tuesday May 21, 2013
Phone calls continued nothing to report. Joe Cain received tip about top secret meeting in House Representatives Judiciary Hearing. Joe indicated that there was nothing on House of Representative Legislative Calendar: AGENDA from the House Judiciary: 9:00 AM – Revised Judiciary- Room 519, House Office Building, Lansing, MI- was all that was indicated: . Joe indicated that since we were not sure if this was a real meeting on 4271 or if it was a set up. He indicated that we should immediately start making telephone calls to the House Judiciary.

Wednesday May 22, 2013

In a Facebook Activist calling event we faced a great deal of opposition if we planned on attending this secret hearing. We were told that it was a waste of time for us to attend this meeting. We were told that it did not pertain to HB 4271, and we were threatened with physical violence if we planned on attending this event:

This bill essentially makes Caregivers no longer necessary, and limits a patient’s consumption. Cancer patients cannot afford dispensary prices. Patients deserve to have caregivers and not have to rely on commercialized dispensary prices. Caregivers are an integral part of medical marijuana. The key points were made and that event page really stirred a ruckus. Once the HB 4271 supporters knew that we were going to attend the top secret hearing, and that we were calling Representatives, all hell broke loose in Michigan. They sent in the trolls to cause a ruckus on our event page and deliberately tried to distract us from our telephone mission.

VIDEO TAPE 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMY3V7rr4U

Joe Cain and Vivian Curl head to Lansing to join the secret hearing that was taking place about HB 4271. We knew something was up when we walked into House of Representatives Building Room 519. The hearing was scheduled for 9:00 am. We arrived at the hearing room at 8:15 am (We wanted to make sure we got front row seats. You never know how many people will show up for these top secret hearings). We sat down, filled out the handy dandy oppose or support card, and we were the first ones to hand it to the Clerk when she came into the hearing room with the security guard.

People filed into the hearing room and much to our astonishment each and every person coming into the room was a dispensary owner, or compassion club owner. Incredible check it out:

VIDEO TAPE 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nm4Rct10Gk

Joe Cain explains the surprise that we are feeling as we see the leaders of our movement pile into the hearing room. This same hearing that we were told was not important, and did not pertain to patients and caregivers.

VIDEO TAPE 3::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jG-fuWjZ3g

Rick Thompson owner of Big Daddy Dispensaries of Ann Arbor said, this was not an important meeting, and it was not important for us to be there, and we were ignorant people for attempting to go: Democracy in action?

VIDEO TAPE 4:

We will call this the current state:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au1QW6xNIdY

The discussion was about medical marijuana distribution: This started out with the Prosecutors Association: Let’s count how many times they mention “HB 4271” – Assistant Prosecuting Attorney Steckler starts with recap of where the law stands. He says this is his second time meeting in one of these meetings. Steckler says the people in the room can decide whether legislation can be recommended:

VIDEO TAPE 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHOf-RZX9Tg

In this video they give testimony about why they all support HB 4271. They even call themselves National Patient’s Rights Association, the Man in a Wheelchair is a patient, and also dispensary owner. He mentions how he supports HB 4271 because they wrote the bill. He tells about how people absolutely love dispensaries, and communities should in fact support this, and it should be local option. He talks about getting access to the medicine that day. This is all a bunch of rubbish. Just listen to the videos and form your own judgment. Robin Schneider says that people that are in towns that do not have provision centers and towns can keep their ordinances, and say that they do not want to offend municipalities. They said that patients can drive, being sick is not relevant, go drive to Detroit and get their $30 a gram meds, but they are totally happy with pushing through HB 4271. They just really want to share the happy thoughts about HB 4271. However, this meeting was announced that it was about marijuana distribution, but each person that has spoken has mentioned how they support HB 4271: .

VIDEO TAPE 6:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVtp3iek-hE

In this video they discuss the cities and townships that would opt out of this, they said in fact that opting in and opting is a reason why people should support HB 4271. This is just crazy, creating ordinances that will make medical marijuana patients criminals from one county to the next and this is acceptable policy making? Available to some in opting in communities, but if you live in a community of opt out community your medicine will not be with this immediate access that they claim to want to secure for people. Can you even believe these people are talking about our rights with this much thoughtlessness?

VIDEO TAPE 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwGb-5FJNi4

In this video Karen Okeife the original writer of Michigan Medical Marijuana discusses the original intent and voices her support of HB 4271,

VIDEO TAPE 8:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrV–QWRKVA

We watched all morning, testimony after testimony of people speaking using the name HB 4271 and clearly stating their support of this bill. It was disheartening to watch some of our very own, turn their backs on privacy. We never thought we would see the day that human rights took the back hand to big dollar commercialized medicine in America. Are you kidding me? Look what the pharmaceutical companies have done to our country. They will not stop until we are all monetarily broke, and emotionally busted. Joe Cain gives a recap of the Representative Judiciary Hearing: The only people allowed to speak were people that supported the bill: .

VIDEO TAPE 9:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b4hJNOTNaY

Finally, after literally raising cain (no pun intended), Joe and Vivian were allowed to go to the stand. Becca Hollandsworth did an excellent job detailing the specific issues she handles with testing Cannabis. Joe Cain gave a powerful testimony that was so powerful, they gaveled us, and made us stop. I didn’t even get my chance to speak. Darn it Joe!! Excellent job!!! Standing up clapping loudly, this was the first time being dismissed from a House of Representatives Judiciary hearing with a gavel. However, we can’t say we weren’t warned. We were told when we entered the hearing room that we would not be allowed to voice our concerns by National Patients’ Rights Association, Robin Schneider;

The people are being told that the politicians are not listening to us, protests do not work, letters, and faxes do not work. We are told by Jamie Lowell that the only way we can get our voices heard is to take an offering of cash in order to access our legislative leaders. That is right these politicians are being bought and sold for a minimum of $5000 campaign contribution for Senator Rick Jones vote, or a low bargain rate of $500 for a regular member. Democracy is no longer for the people, but being peddled off to the highest campaign contributors. This was obvious during the recent secret hearings on HB 4271.

The fact that we were not allowed to voice our concerns with HB 4271 is proof that corruption exists in this law. The current situation in the State of Michigan is bleak. We have patients with cancer, and no extra cash to afford the extremely high cannabis oil extract prices available in the commercial market. The McQueen ruling has created big black out spots inside the State of Michigan. Some counties have completely closed all of the dispensaries, while others choose to remain open. The patients are the ones caught in the crossfire and further removing rights of caregivers and patients in the State is the start of a very big problem for civil rights inside the State of Michigan. Our people are being punished with extreme fines, and being forced back to toxic and poisonous pharmaceuticals that are killing more people in our world than any other drug.

The Solution:

Reverse the McQueen Supreme Court Ruling. Attorney General Bill Schuette clearly overstepped his boundaries by supplying bogus statistically information that badly biased the ruling. Immediately restore caregiver to patient transactions. We are horrified to find out that Representative Colton and Senator Rick Jones can be bought at the expense of Citizens Rights, this is a horrific crime a clear violation of human rights because the sick and dying are being put in prison because of the current State of the Law. The people in the State of Michigan believe that restoring the rights to patients and caregivers is the only acceptable solution for this train wreck called Michigan Medical Marijuana. It has been a political sand bagging where patients are the ones that will pay a high price for the lack of action that we are seeing throughout the State. All law enforcement activity toward members of medical marijuana community inside the State of Michigan should cease and desist until the faults of the political system are revealed and the deficiencies are corrected. In addition there should be serious reform inside the advocacy movement inside the State of Michigan. It should be a requirement of law that conflicts of interest are revealed to members of the organization. In Michigan it has been the fox watching the hen house, and even a wise man knows a fox should never watch the hen house.

Written by:
Vivian Curl, Citizens for Human Rights, CannaTV
Joe Cain, National Marijuana Coalition, CannaTV